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New girl told me this morning she wants kids on day. I spent all day thinking about it; hyper aware of every parents I saw in the park and on my bike ride. I rode 80k; so I had plenty of time to think. I think in the past I've never wanted kids, but I told girls I did, because I loved them and knew it was something I could do with them. Today, I'm not so sure. I just can't morally bring someone into this world just to suffer.

@djsumdog you bring and raise good children to make the world better

@a7 I don't really want to make the world better. We're all going extinct one day anyway. Our sun will burn out. I've already lost a few people who took their own lives. Sure the world could get better, and sure there's been good in my life ...

I think back to this New Yorker piece: newyorker.com/culture/persons-

@djsumdog your kids wont live 4 billion years, I dunno I think antinatalism is dumb and just ideolgized depression and dissatisfaction. If you truly believed life was only suffering and that the world is no good, you would kill yourself. It's really that simple.

@a7 Killing yourself hurts a lot of people. It's a selfish thing to do once you exist.

I'm not against other people having kids; I just don't want to have any. So I guess I'm not a full on antinatalist.

Someone's gotta have kids of course. My sister has 3 .. that's enough to keep our DNA going right? I just don't want to contribute, or the responsibility.

@djsumdog
Everyone will suffer, and there is nothing that you can do to remove that entirely, but if they know of something more, something eternal, then life has meaning. No, this is not a "figure out how to make life meaningful" kind of thing.

Anyway, just ignore me since I know a bit of your history/beliefs about these things...

@masterofthetiger So out of curiosity, do you think everyone should have kids (like it's morally wrong not to if you can), or is it okay for people to chose not to have them?

@djsumdog
I do not see any reason why it would be morally wrong not to have kids. Or vice versa. Unless of course God specifically tells you one way or another, which he may do.

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